> > Also I haven't noticed a difference when referring to the ISPs and the > telephone company connections. My undertstanding is that while the telcos > are regulated by the FCC, an ISP that isn't a telco company doesn't have > any regulatory agency at all. > > Sally Hawkes shawkes@comp.uark.edu Sally, This is an important distinction in the discussion. The telcos are indeed regulated ... at least some of them are. MCI and Sprint don't fall under the same set of rules as AT&T does ... that's one level of complexity. Worse, just because things get deregulated at the federal level (and there's some debate whether the Act does/will indeed do that) doesn't have any effect whatever on the 51 state PUCs that set rates for the RBOCs. Now, a bunch of extra-telco externalities that have everything to do with the issue of getting economical internet access widely proliferated: - ISPs are indeed unregulated and the Dereg Act doesn't change that at all. ISPs resell telco connectivity plus a bunch of other services. Most of the RBOCs now have ISP subsidiaries, but they are set up as separate corporate entities _outside_ the regulatory PUC framework. So they are free to compete with the independent ISPs (that shakeout is going to be bloody and it's not at all clear who will win out). - technologically, cable TV is likely to be a major competitor for Internet access. With the exception of @Home, none of the CATV companies that I've seen have a clue on what internet services are. Access yes, services ... hardly. The federal regulatory structure for CATV regulates television provision rates, not 'value added services' which is where Internet access would fall. - terrestrial wireless providers like Metricom appear to be focussed on urban markets (which are the easiest places to get copper or fiber to), so their value for applications not specifically mobile aren't clear. But these are entirely unregulated industries (aside from the issue of FCC providing some unlicensed spectrum). - a whole bunch of Internet infrastructure for school, library, ... and commercial installations ... is owned by the user. LAN cabling, usually the router, local management, ... and all the services you hang off your local network (WWW servers, for instance). None of this part is regulated ... this is the product end of a highly competitive industry. All this makes me wonder at how much leverage we think we can get by diddling with the tariffs. No amount of fiddling within the Telecom Dereg Act can have any effect on the discounts we might get for routers or domain name service from an ISP or Cat5 cable we get from an electrical contractor. And the leverage decreases as we get rural. Radio-WAN service from the likes of Low Earth Orbit satellite vendors will be reality in a couple years as Loral, Motorola and TRW bring their systems on line ... and very practically within 5 as Teledesic comes up. These guys are already bandying about their rates and their marketing departments are busily undercutting each other -- as long as there are >2 vendors out there they won't ever get regulated in the tariff notion like the existing common carrier telcos (and also INMARSAT). In short, the regulatory lever simply has no purchase on some of the larger running costs. What does appear doable within the latitude of the Act is a transfer payment scheme whereby one component service (common carrier tariffs) subsidizes other unregulated parts. Not exactly what Judge Green had in mind when he ordered the telcos to stop subsidizing local service with long distance rates. So this leads me to this question (for which the WWW pages we've got on this 'seminar' seem to be of no help): Is our effort 1) an attempt to put an economic foundation under Internet services to schools (et al) or 2) an attempt to provide some social engineering regulations as fine print for the Telecom Deregulation Act? Rex Buddenberg